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  • Gibby3275
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    Hey mirth,

    I have my "Authorization to Transport Restricted or Prohibited Firearms" permit issued in Ontario. My understanding is that I can only use it in Ontario. Is that correct?

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  • mirth
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    Boy, when information is wrong...

    USA Residents/Citizens certainly CAN travel with firearms through Canada-- in fact, easier than a Canadian could travel in the USA with their firearms-- but you just have to go through the correct paperwork and process.

    Firearms such as long-guns are easier for sure, but pistols are certainly possible. The truth behind this statement is slightly twisted. You can apply to bring handguns that fall within Canadian "restricted" classification but NOT "prohibited" ones.

    How?

    Restricted firearms in Canada require a license. So, you'll need to come up here for a visit without the firearms and take the approved course. Once done, you apply for the license. It is the same one a Canadian applies for, but is issued to non-resident.

    Once you've applied and been approved, you then apply for a tranport permit. This allows you to go from border to range, border to border, or border to home.

    The last step is to contact the registration number for restricted firearms and register the make/model/serial number to your shiny new License number. You get another piece of paper for each restricted firearm showing it is registered, etc. Bring that, your transport authorization, and your license with you and have it readily available at all times.

    (you can reverse the "registration" and "transport authorization" steps, if you want)

    Please ensure that you follow the safe storage and transport requirements in Canada-- but you learned all about that on your course!

    Finally, go grab your toys and bring them up/through.

    Note: You need to contact the border in advance of your trip in order to notify them of your intention to travel with licensed firearm through the border. That is just a call with your license number and firearm model/serial number.


    Done.


    Yes, it sucks a little. No, I've never done it because I'm a Canadian and have the licenses already.

    Do I wish I could do the same thing and get permits for USA? You betcha, but Washington State only allows possession of firearms by residents (90 days living in USA/WA).

    <cry>


    If you really want to do this, come on up here. I know a couple really great instructors that will help you through the process. Once you get the license, registration certificates, and authorization to transport... You have every right to the firearm in canada that canadians do!

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  • wingnut60
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    Fedex: Firearms. FedEx will only accept shipments of firearms when either the shipper or recipient is a licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, licensed dealer or licensed collector and is not prohibited from making such shipments by federal, state or local regulations when these conditions are met

    UPS: Firearms will be transported only between licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers and licensed collectors… to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer for the sole purpose of repair or customizing, and the repaired firearm or a replacement firearm of the same kind or type on return from the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer to that person.

    USPS: A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state.
    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun
    May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
    Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the state where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

    If, after reading thru the info Ray posted, you still want to try shipping a firearm--go ahead. We promise to get you out of jail if it takes 20 years...

    There is conflicting info on the USPS site, depends on how you read/interpret it. If you want to ship a gun of any kind, I suggest that you do it thru a FFL dealer only. Fedex and UPS are pretty plain on it.

    Joe

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  • Ray,IN
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    A private individual may send guns via UPS, or FEDEX. The regulations are here.

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  • JEBar
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    Originally posted by Gibby3275 View Post
    We don't want your guns at our campsites. We are safer without them.

    no problem, that is something you need not worry about in any way whatsoever .... as stated, the vast majority of the time we don't travel with any type of fire arms (when we do it is usually due to a specific anticipation of using them during the trip) .... also, I completely respect any country's right to make such laws and I have no doubt not having us come to Canada is of no consequence

    Jim

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  • Gibby3275
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    Originally posted by JEBar View Post
    as a personal statement .... years ago I visited the Vancouver, really enjoyed it, and would love to go back .... in addition, there are many other areas of the country that I've seen/read about in various media that I'd love to see first hand .... I also have no problem with the fact that folks in Canada have every right to pass and enforce the laws they choose ..... while most trips we make do not include taking along any type of firearm, the restrictions outlined in this tread are the single reason I seriously doubt our camper will ever be taken into Canada .... I have no illusions that losing the benefits from any money we may spend while there will have any negative impact on their economy nor that anyone in power up there could care less about us not coming .... we still have hopes of going to Alaska but any such trip will not include coming in contact with Canadian soil

    Jim

    Good to hear. We don't want your guns at our campsites. We are safer without them.

    (I own rifles, shotguns & pistols, but they have no business being at a family campground)

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  • staggerlee
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    Altho I don't have that many years left, a life sentence would put a severe crimp in my beer consumption...
    Joe[/QUOTE]

    It just seemed fair to me if it was mailed to you by yourself it wouldn't matter.
    Its going from state to state after all.
    Maybe someone rents them up there. :dunno:
    But who knows, not me.

    Certainly wouldn't want to cut into your brewski time.
    Lee

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  • wingnut60
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    Lee,
    I believe it is illegal to mail a firearm--that is, one in firing condition, or even just the action. Has to be between FFL dealers.
    And....I would not even want to THINK about what would happen if for some reason I was found to be in possession of a restricted/banned firearm in Canada without all the paperwork/blessings of the Canadian Prime Minister.
    Altho I don't have that many years left, a life sentence would put a severe crimp in my beer consumption...
    Joe

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  • Ray,IN
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    If I remember correctly there is a gun shop in Tok, Alaska that accepts and ships handguns for folks in your situation. We drove to AK last summer and left our guns home in the safe because we knew we would be entering/exiting Canada 8 times during the caravan trip. That would have been a real hassle. If/when we drive to AK again, it will be on our own and we'll take our shotgun, and do the paperwork as Cdn laws demand. NOTE: When entering Alaska you will be asked if you have any firearms too.
    If you are entering/exiting Canada by the same crossing, there are CG's on the U.S. side that will hold your handguns in their safe until you return. I've done that before, when just going to the Calgary Stampede.
    My drivers license notes I have a lifetime CCW permit, so every time we are asked about firearms. After I declare all my firearms and ammunition are home locked in my safe because I was coming to Canada, the border guards slightly smile and wave me through. They have a tough, dangerous job, that is at times very boring. Being polite, respectful, and obedient really helps get through customs.
    Not once have they questioned my 10" survival knife that resides in my truck door pocket.
    Last edited by Ray,IN; 12-10-2012, 06:12 AM.

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  • armydog
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    Thanks for the input everyone... I know this riddle is far from being cracked. I'll probably wind up doing some transfer between FFLs if this other process doesn't work out.

    But in the event I ever do figure this out I will post the process.

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  • norty
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    Originally posted by JEBar View Post
    if we go, we would most likely take the camper and leave it somewhere in Seattle .... take a boat or fly up to Alaska and rent a camper .... return to Seattle on a boat/plane and bring the camper home .... so far, all this is nothing but a point of conversation while traveling down the road .... the odds are good that it won't ever happen

    Jim
    Yes, I am familiar with those conversations. We have them all the time and have fun. I want to move everywhere we go for a few hours.

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  • JEBar
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    Originally posted by norty View Post
    So you are going but not the camper?
    if we go, we would most likely take the camper and leave it somewhere in Seattle .... take a boat or fly up to Alaska and rent a camper .... return to Seattle on a boat/plane and bring the camper home .... so far, all this is nothing but a point of conversation while traveling down the road .... the odds are good that it won't ever happen

    Jim

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  • norty
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    Originally posted by JEBar View Post
    we still have hopes of going to Alaska but any such trip will not include coming in contact with Canadian soil

    Jim
    So you are going but not the camper?

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  • JEBar
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    as a personal statement .... years ago I visited the Vancouver, really enjoyed it, and would love to go back .... in addition, there are many other areas of the country that I've seen/read about in various media that I'd love to see first hand .... I also have no problem with the fact that folks in Canada have every right to pass and enforce the laws they choose ..... while most trips we make do not include taking along any type of firearm, the restrictions outlined in this tread are the single reason I seriously doubt our camper will ever be taken into Canada .... I have no illusions that losing the benefits from any money we may spend while there will have any negative impact on their economy nor that anyone in power up there could care less about us not coming .... we still have hopes of going to Alaska but any such trip will not include coming in contact with Canadian soil

    Jim

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  • Roadie66
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    Here,s a link to the RCMP website for visitors to Canada:
    Firearm Users Visiting Canada - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

    We have some real restricting laws here so I would not risk having your weapons confiscated for not having your paper work filled out. If you really need them I would suggest shipping them to Alaska and then shipping them back if you can do that otherwise bring a shotty and buy some slugs when you get there although you can bring a limited amount of ammunition into Canada.
    Gotta be carful with the shotty as well......gotta have an 18.5 inch barel and be no shorter than 26 inches over all length. Oh and don't forget the regulations on ammunition storage and storage and transportation of your firearms:wall:
    I carry my Stoeger coach gun when we camp following all rules and regulations laid out by the federal and local authorities

    Those are the restrictions I know of but to be sure take a good read through the RCMP website Firearms Act and Regulations - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

    Just to add more confusion here is a link to the justice department which outlines storage and transportation.
    Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations

    And for some reading material check out this link:
    CSSA: Legal Storage and Transport. (target shooting, shotgun, rifle, pistol, biathlon, free pistol, cowboy shooting, SASS, IPSC, PPC, IPDA, full-bore rifle, gun ban, gun control, handgun ban, C68, gun registry, confiscation, gun rights, self defense,

    So now you can see why I suggest shipping them or leaving them at home. You have to be a lawyer to understand the regulations and they are still open to interpretation so they can be confiscated first and questions answered later. I would hate to hear of some nice firearms being confiscated

    Hope that helps,

    Ian

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